-543 Nothing should be illegal, because people have a right to decide for themselves what's okay and what isn't. For example, if someone thought that murder, rape, and/or torture wasn't wrong, then we should respect their beliefs by letting them carry them out. If we don't, then we're no better than the pro-lifers, amirite?

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I agree with "nothing should be illegal" and that's about it. The rest of the post is crap. I personally believe that we don't have to have laws to keep people from murdering, raping, and/or torturing one another. People have morals and values; keep in mind that murderers and rapists don't really give a shit about the law anyway. Do we have to learn the 10 Commandments before we realize that killing another person is wrong? No. For those people who lack morals and values, they will still be punished; most likely by the victim's friends or family. Example: A guy goes out and murders a woman. When that woman's family finds out who did it, they'd probably kill the guy, thus sending a message that if you murder someone, you'll probably be killed by that someone's loved ones. I know it's way more complex than this, but it is a possibility to have a society without any 'laws'. Not having any laws would not be "letting them carry out".

by Anonymous 11 years ago

not a good idea at all, a society with FEW laws would be for the best. if you have no laws then situations like the L.A. riots become the norm. you'd have large gangs of bandits along the roads like they do in Mexico, and they still have laws there but the criminals are in control. that is what happens in lawless times, criminals take control. the victim's family will be unable to seek justice if the crime is committed by a gang of 200 armed men. or if they are able to seek justice what if they kill the wrong person because they THINK he committed the crime? humans are naturally malicious creatures and in times were we have no rule of law to keep our instincts in check then we will revert to our most basic of instincts. natural selection, social Darwinism, the weak and generous die, and the strong and ruthless flourish. we should not have so many laws that govern our society today though. the large presence of government is even worse than the anarchy of no government. I think that the U.S. will soon learn that lesson the hard way if we keep heading down the same path. a society of lawlessness is not a society of civilized humans, anarchy would be the law of the land.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Yeah, I thought of that after I posted. Like I mentioned, though, it's way more complicated than just ending laws. So I do agree that limited laws would be best.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

An "anarchist society" is ideal world, yes, but one that would never, ever work. "Anarchy would be the law of the land." That whole sentence is an oxymoron. The only way anarchy would work without immediately collapsing is if every single person never harmed anyone else. Extremely idealistic. (I'm from the US so I'm going to use our government as the example.) People need laws and government, but a small one - not the all-powerful federal one we have now. According to the original constitution, all powers not specifically mentioned by the constitution as belonging to the federal government are given to the state governments. The federal government should never have become the power-hungry force it is now. Also, even if people didn't have laws made from the government, religion would still exist.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

That's totally ridiculous. You need to have certain laws to protect citizens. Any society that leaves everyone to do whatever they want and makes everyone defend themselves would collapse.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

What if the woman's family never finds out? The purpose of laws is to organize "punishment" in ways that are clear and fair to everyone. People working together towards a common goal of justice is more powerful than everyone individually watching out for themselves. Thus, while a society without laws is possible, a society with laws is superior.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

And we can do so without the government. I suppose that was the direction I was going in my original comment. As of now, TheCatalyist put it better.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Individuals coming together as a group to promote justice for each other IS government, or at least a branch of it.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

What you're thinking of is not right. Vengeance will simply fuel a cycle of hate. It's naive to think that this cycle will affect only those who contributed to it. It will get everyone involved. In a utopia, people won't need laws to enforce good behavior, but such a utopia is impossible because people genetically vary, and someone is bound to come up who will commit a crime eventually, and there need to be laws to handle that because the people affected by it cannot be trusted to do so properly

by Anonymous 11 years ago

The fuck?

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Read lord of the flies, whether you like it or not, the regulating the government does keeps us from our innate evil ways

by Anonymous 11 years ago

This post reminded me of that book too.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Reminds me of Ralph Waldo Emerson.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Laws are there for a reason - to serve as a reminder of the correct moral code. Yes, most people know what's right and wrong, but some don't, and the law is there as a reminder that there are consequences if you do bad things. If I rob a shop, then attack the owner, rape his daughter (let's say I'm a male) and kill his five year old son, then claim that I believe what I did is right, does that make what I did any better? No. The son is dead and will never see the light of day again, he will never fulfill his dreams, he will never have a chance to do a list of thousands and thousands of things that he would have done if I had not taken his life. The daughter? She will be scarred with memories for ever, be grieving for her brother, may not trust any man but her father again. Speaking of her father, he's got to cope with the death of his son, the outcome of his daughter's ordeal, his injuries and getting the shop back together. Destroying other people's lives is an inexcusable thing to do. By not having laws and therefore no punishment, it's saying to others who may refrain from crimes because of the consequences that they can do what they want and nothing will happen.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

If we didn't have laws, our world would become chaos with mass murder and crimes. We wouldn't even be able to lead a stable life and we'd probably bring the human race to extinction. Oh, and remember that you could one of those people that someone decides to kill, rape, or etc.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

People certainly should have the right to decide for themselves what's right and what's wrong, but laws exist when one person believes it's right to interfere with someone else's life without their consent. For instance, if a man wholeheartedly believes he has the right to kill another man, but that victim does not believe he should be killed, who is right? There's no real way to tell, but laws forbid murder anyway because random, unsanctioned killings unequivocally damage society.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

At first I thought you were going to go the "legalize drugs!" route, and I'm fine with that, but I think torture and rape and stuff might be taking it a bit too far...

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Torture rape and murder must have a victim. Why would it be fair to drastically affect that person?

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Law would stop people, and if not, when we catch them, their would be a consequence.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

But what about punishment? An eye for an eye? So if someone kills a loved one, even if you're morally against it, the only way you can punish them would be to take revenge? That's horrible. I agree that there should be less laws... Drugs should be legalized and taxed: it would make the government a hell of a lot more money, and people will use anyway. And I agree with whoever said this post reminds you of Lord of the Flies. Just see how well anarchy worked out there

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Yes, please. Legalize murder, theft, and rape. That's a fantastic idea.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

That last sentence leads me to believe that the post was just poorly executed sarcasm . . . I really, really hope so.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Because if a man rapes a woman it's not a problem, check yourself!

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Fantastic troll.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Troooooll in the dungeon.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I've got 13 people to rape. Obviously they wouldn't mind since they agree with the post and that it should be legal. So come here and get some of this torture!!!!

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Let's see you say this after someone murders you...oh wait, you couldn't, 'cause you'd be dead.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

your rights end where mine begin; my rights end where yours begin

by Anonymous 11 years ago

hey ouch, I'm pro-life. What's so wrong about being pro-life?

by Anonymous 11 years ago

That's what I was wondering!

by Anonymous 11 years ago

The pro-life bit at the end probably means it's a joke (or at least that bit is a joke).

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I hope so....

by Anonymous 11 years ago

http://www.amplifyyourvoice.org/images/FE/chain237siteType8/site206/user/1467974/my-body-is-not-public-property.jpg I may not have a right to judge them, but I have the right to my own body and my own personal safety.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

So many fallacies. To name a few: Fallacy of composition, Appeal to equality, Cherry picking, and False analogy.

by Anonymous 11 years ago